@accalia They should feel bad anyway, at least if they expect it on a regular basis. IME and according to every metric I've ever seen, both productivity and code quality drop rapidly when coders work more than 6 hours of actual coding time per day, or do more than four days of extensive coding in a seven-day work week. See? Those annoying meetings are productive. Or at least keep you distracted enough to stay productive, I guess. And, as everyone always suspected, all those companies during the Dot Bomb that had 60+ hour weekly requirements were shooting themselves in the foot.